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SPEAKER 1: Start.
SPEAKER 2: Okay. [Unintelligible - 00:00:14].
SPEAKER 1: [Unintelligible - 00:00:27] you want to say something?
SPEAKER 3: That was my darling daughter, the one who sang that song, I think. My name is Christine [unintelligible - 00:00:42] Brian and today is March 4th, 1984. I'm here to meet my aunt Martha [unintelligible - 00:00:51]. I'm here to visit this afternoon and we are going to talk about the history of our family [unintelligible - 00:01:01]. The [unintelligible - 00:01:03] family is descended from the Isle of Crete and I'm talking about my dad now [unintelligible - 00:01:13] and the family. It made a family name but [unintelligible - 00:01:19] and I think I put that [unintelligible - 00:01:32] you find that name very common [unintelligible - 00:01:42]. In fact in World War Two, the Germans had a landing field in the [unintelligible - 00:01:52] they launched an attack on a priest in the downtown area.
SPEAKER 4: What was the name of the town again?
SPEAKER 3: Now it wasn’t a town but they couldn't -- I had a mother [unintelligible - 00:02:07]. And then they came, evidently they [unintelligible - 00:02:15]. Landed in a village called [unintelligible - 00:02:22] cooled off on the [unintelligible - 00:02:35]. Maybe that’s how they got the name, I don’t know but, that’s the story told. But my dad’s name was [unintelligible - 00:02:43]. He was born in Quebec. I remember that four of five years ago.
SPEAKER 4: [Unintelligible - 00:02:46].
SPEAKER 3: He was born into [unintelligible - 00:02:49].
SPEAKER 4: Okay.
SPEAKER 3: Now this is a -- I'm trying to like [unintelligible - 00:02:51] years ago. [Unintelligible - 00:02:53] and [unintelligible - 00:02:58] so the main [unintelligible - 00:03:05] a widow by the name of Camilla [unintelligible - 00:03:11] had many children, five children. Five, six children. They were poor and they had little children [unintelligible - 00:03:22]. You had little kids running around like that. These are Camilla's kids and that’s how they [unintelligible - 00:03:34] and that’s how they go [unintelligible - 00:03:39]. I mean, through the years. That’s how she got the name Camilla and they just [unintelligible - 00:03:53] that’s how he got the name [unintelligible - 00:03:58] and my grandfather’s name was [Leonidas]. After the funeral, they would [unintelligible - 00:04:08] I don’t know the whole story. So my grandma was a podiatrist. Now she's not only [unintelligible - 00:04:31] most of the relatives [unintelligible - 00:04:36] are the family that [unintelligible - 00:04:38] so this is your grandmother, incidentally my great granddad. And they came from you know the village [unintelligible - 00:04:50] and that’s how they became – he was first cousins with my dad was about [unintelligible - 00:04:59] first cousin to my dad, too.
[00:05:00] [unintelligible - 00:05:12] He was about 13, 14 years old when he decided to go to America. But before I go any further, [unintelligible - 00:05:43] there were 10 children in my dad’s family. There were six boys and four sisters. The oldest daughter was called [Nico] [unintelligible - 00:06:01] he's a little boy because [unintelligible - 00:06:22] and then was [unintelligible - 00:06:23] he must have died young, died an infant or something. [Unintelligible - 00:06:31] and then there was [Kosta]. My Uncle Kosta was next, then Uncle John. He got his name because he was born I think on a Thursday. They automatically pick the name John if you’re born on a Thursday. He was younger than Gus at the time. He came after Ivy. He was the third in the family. Ivy, Nick, my dad, Chris and then Uncle Gus was next, and then my Uncle John and then a sister called Beth [unintelligible - 00:07:44]. And she married, as I've been told, but she never had children [unintelligible - 00:07:59] and she left me after World War Two, right after that and then after [unintelligible - 00:08:07] the brother John, who I've heard about him. And then after John came, who was that? [Unintelligible - 00:08:17]. And after John came [Eleni]. [Unintelligible - 00:08:51]. Uncle Nick was [unintelligible - 00:09:01]. The oldest son that was named after the grandfather had died. The youngest son after the death of [unintelligible - 00:09:05] grandfather because you still have the name [unintelligible - 00:09:08]. John [unintelligible - 00:09:28] six boys and four girls [unintelligible - 00:09:46]. The other one but the baby she's still living today [unintelligible - 00:09:59]
[00:10:00] but the baby, she’s still living today. She’s the only survivor, maybe four years old and [unintelligible - 00:10:03] her name is Vivian, so definitely [unintelligible - 00:10:07] and the boys were Chris, Gus, Tom, John and Nick. [Unintelligible - 00:10:19] and they're luckily – they're like [unintelligible - 00:10:26] what's going on and so [unintelligible - 00:10:28] thing is I wait down there you know [unintelligible - 00:10:31] so they you know [unintelligible - 00:10:36] and they [unintelligible - 00:10:42] you know this is 50 [unintelligible - 00:10:45] family and so they would be like they understand. And so my father decided, when he was 13 or 14 years old, that he was going to go away [unintelligible - 00:10:57] so he was on a boat for [unintelligible - 00:11:01] father and you know this [unintelligible - 00:11:05] expensive and so they could get there and then when we decided -- when they decided to come to New York. He had gone to school, my father. He was very intelligent [unintelligible - 00:11:19] they can do it again [unintelligible - 00:11:25] the first day taking the first week doing a job like we do a little more than them.
SPEAKER 4: But that [unintelligible - 00:11:34] yeah, because that you don’t know when they will decide there.
SPEAKER 3: Yeah so I would [unintelligible - 00:11:39] but because then [unintelligible - 00:11:41] like they're politer in English and you got to [unintelligible - 00:11:47] and so beautiful English.
SPEAKER 4: And then [unintelligible - 00:11:52] how do you think they got the money to get [unintelligible - 00:11:56]?
SPEAKER 3: I don’t know how they got the money [unintelligible - 00:11:59] I don’t know and they came on sail boat [unintelligible - 00:12:04] and we worked in the middle [unintelligible - 00:12:12] he went to New York City, he decided all by himself, so they had to put [unintelligible - 00:12:17] to go out down [unintelligible - 00:12:23] and then he go out with you then [unintelligible - 00:12:26] going around 18 [unintelligible - 00:12:31] so that 18 years old, 19 and we got 90, 1890, so there approximately I would say, 18 and so [unintelligible - 00:12:45].
SPEAKER 4: ‘89 [unintelligible - 00:12:55].
SPEAKER 3: Approximately that is 1890. When he came to New York [unintelligible - 00:12:58] and we worked [unintelligible - 00:13:00] opinion and they realize you know there was nice work and those nice flower. They go to the pond, you know, they [unintelligible - 00:13:17] flowers, too, and just then I think [unintelligible - 00:13:24]. It was [unintelligible - 00:13:27] almost, oh yeah, they had all the [unintelligible - 00:13:30] one with clubs and [unintelligible - 00:13:34], too. Okay. Yeah, it wasn’t [unintelligible - 00:13:38] and then he decided that we were going to have a lot of difficulties to see how you don’t [unintelligible - 00:13:42] town and kind of congregate that and we decided to go to Massachusetts [unintelligible - 00:13:49], Massachusetts one of those towns that [unintelligible - 00:13:53] you know, this is surprising or sleeping. I can't wait that we talk and we sat there and I listened to him, his mindset and [unintelligible - 00:14:07] work and then decided to go to Providence, Rhode Island at that time. He decided to [unintelligible - 00:14:14] people from the home town to [unintelligible - 00:14:18] they went to their president then met one of the [unintelligible - 00:14:24] decided to baptize our girl that and named her Catherine. My dad baptized her in Providence, Rhode Island and he decided [unintelligible - 00:14:30] title and confidential island and [unintelligible - 00:14:36] so her file was a little bit older than my dad but it was older than my dad. [Unintelligible - 00:14:43] ride in it but that was like five ago through west, through west that I don’t --
SPEAKER 4: But how long do you think [unintelligible - 00:14:48]?
SPEAKER 3: Well we don’t know and that’s the next – I don’t know how long he dated our mom. [Unintelligible - 00:14:56] for the next thing that I know about my dad that obviously I
[00:15:00] know that’s [unintelligible - 00:15:02] evidently learn the candidate was trying to be positive for treating positive some [unintelligible - 00:15:11] this is an answer but he was a very good, very excellent candidate and then [unintelligible - 00:15:19] and going -- and we dated times the next theater there are always [unintelligible - 00:15:25] terms their rules. God, God and then we were not done with the police [unintelligible - 00:15:37].
SPEAKER 4: No, no.
SPEAKER 3: Because at the time, and I think that’s in the country business and what's in the [unintelligible - 00:15:46] council yeah and you know and [unintelligible - 00:15:50].
SPEAKER 4: So do you think they all came sad?
SPEAKER 3: No, no, no not that [unintelligible - 00:15:54] I really don’t know how much -- but they could not still get two months [unintelligible - 00:15:57] and so my dad [unintelligible - 00:16:00] my live dad is more like a finance you know like you need to [unintelligible - 00:16:04]. I think they’ve decided to take -- decided like put them down [unintelligible - 00:16:09] and I got a very bad cold and [unintelligible - 00:16:18] the right council with the [unintelligible - 00:16:22] today we really bail on we got very [unintelligible - 00:16:28] like take two weeks. The doctors told my father that if you're going to do something that [unintelligible - 00:16:35] possible to warrant a crime [unintelligible - 00:16:37] California and gave the next, so he decided to put that because so that was the one time he managed to stay back from whatever that was and we managed to do [unintelligible - 00:16:55] marry [unintelligible - 00:17:00].
SPEAKER 4: So he was [unintelligible - 00:17:03].
SPEAKER 3: Okay. So don’t get angry because now it's not the time. And I think that’s the way indeed but in the mean time I had only decided to check, you know, you can have the money and [unintelligible - 00:17:16] another time he said [unintelligible - 00:17:19] also [unintelligible - 00:17:24] he said you know I got idea [unintelligible - 00:17:27] sort of [unintelligible - 00:17:33] money there is [unintelligible - 00:17:35] you're going to get spoiled and I was [unintelligible - 00:17:38] go get the young man you know [unintelligible - 00:17:41] I will bring him [unintelligible - 00:17:43]. So that’s when my dad finally got rid of it [unintelligible - 00:17:46] how long it actually [unintelligible - 00:17:47] the two women soldiers down in training [unintelligible - 00:17:54] and I came out for it [unintelligible - 00:18:00] you know the manager the way that other end and that’s way -- I like the people there [unintelligible - 00:18:08] little candy store we have rather can in [unintelligible - 00:18:19] because I got a [unintelligible - 00:18:22] here and [unintelligible - 00:18:25] dad is working but I can meddle in his [unintelligible - 00:18:30] you know pulling out the best one, too [unintelligible - 00:18:34] problem how to make the problem and they still talk over it and I said yeah, this is, I kind of go on foot [unintelligible - 00:18:48] confident you know I keep [unintelligible - 00:18:50] do and then they're going to support because I'm working to get it and I go back to [unintelligible - 00:18:56] my dad and my dad is closer to television and I thought it was kind of [unintelligible - 00:19:03]. And in 1904, my dad got [unintelligible - 00:19:09] and once became [unintelligible - 00:19:13] and I think it was a lot of times so [unintelligible - 00:19:16] first time to learn and listen up so [unintelligible - 00:19:19] to listen up everything, everything that was [unintelligible - 00:19:21] that time kind of said. And we were not there like dad and I decided well [unintelligible - 00:19:29] 6.7 I can say I know, I think it's kind of 6 to 27 I guess [unintelligible - 00:19:35] of the materials with that main materials and they're good [unintelligible - 00:19:46] and so daddy [unintelligible - 00:19:59]. Now wait answer my question.
[00:20:00] [Unintelligible - 00:20:02] 17 years old, 16 or17 years old actually there are [unintelligible - 00:20:19].
SPEAKER 4: So before my dad got married, he took Uncle Nick with him. So Uncle Nick came before [unintelligible - 00:20:29].
SPEAKER 3: Yeah, so then I met a family [unintelligible - 00:20:33] you know because I was certain there was a [unintelligible - 00:20:37].
SPEAKER 4: How old was he?
SPEAKER 3: He was 15, 15 years old [unintelligible - 00:20:44] those [unintelligible - 00:20:54] we been out of the courtroom and [unintelligible - 00:21:04] decided to [unintelligible - 00:21:07] my mother was [unintelligible - 00:21:18] and I started [unintelligible - 00:21:20] my mother [unintelligible - 00:21:22] she didn’t just sit in the house [unintelligible - 00:21:26] or anything like that, but she didn’t know that until [unintelligible - 00:21:33] because I was [unintelligible - 00:21:39].
SPEAKER 4: How old was she now?
[CROSSTALK]
SPEAKER 3: [Unintelligible - 00:21:50] but I'm talking that way, but I’m talking about the right way. My mother [unintelligible - 00:21:59] my mother’s side [unintelligible - 00:22:07], I'm talking about my father’s side. [Unintelligible - 00:22:09] I have two brothers [unintelligible - 00:22:16].
SPEAKER 4: Your mother’s side?
SPEAKER 3: I'm talking about my [unintelligible - 00:22:18] moment but at the same [unintelligible - 00:22:43] that would have [unintelligible - 00:22:46] by the [unintelligible - 00:22:47]. When I got through [unintelligible - 00:22:49] a lot of cousins and we you know I was [unintelligible - 00:22:53] because a lot of us have not figured it out yet.
SPEAKER 4: [Unintelligible - 00:23:04] you got married.
SPEAKER 3: I got to tell you [unintelligible - 00:23:04] or I'm going to you know [unintelligible - 00:23:19] two sisters in that family [unintelligible - 00:23:27] my little sister and they [unintelligible - 00:23:41]. And [unintelligible - 00:23:47] they're not [unintelligible - 00:23:53] I don’t understand but [unintelligible - 00:23:56] and I don’t know there were [unintelligible - 00:24:03] because I started the [unintelligible - 00:24:13] this wasn’t [unintelligible - 00:24:18] that they [unintelligible - 00:24:20] you know [unintelligible - 00:24:22] and [unintelligible - 00:24:31] my grandfather [unintelligible - 00:24:35] and the reason why I'm back is [unintelligible - 00:24:40] my mother [unintelligible - 00:24:46] and her name by that way is [unintelligible - 00:24:49] with
[00:25:00] [unintelligible - 00:25:09] action for you don’t let [unintelligible - 00:25:11] and then my mother, yeah, she – then my mother helped them [unintelligible - 00:25:23] my mother leave her in the tombs. Katerina, Katerina, [unintelligible - 00:25:43] from the department.
SPEAKER 4: Okay, okay.
SPEAKER 3: Now let’s fix that and my uncle said that they're not for the [unintelligible - 00:26:13] and so [unintelligible - 00:26:23] came in 1904 [unintelligible - 00:26:25] and so [unintelligible - 00:26:32]. So, then the [unintelligible - 00:26:59] and the [unintelligible - 00:26:59] grounds throughout the community [unintelligible - 00:27:02].
SPEAKER 4: So, [unintelligible - 00:27:18].
SPEAKER 3: I tell you [unintelligible - 00:27:24] and by the way [unintelligible - 00:27:26] and this isn't [unintelligible - 00:27:31] better talk [unintelligible - 00:27:43] because they [unintelligible - 00:27:52] and [unintelligible - 00:27:53] my grandmother [unintelligible - 00:27:57] she got [unintelligible - 00:28:03] and [unintelligible - 00:28:05] and along with it. And so my [unintelligible - 00:28:23] yeah but she was [unintelligible - 00:28:44].
SPEAKER 4: [Unintelligible - 00:28:52] is your [unintelligible - 00:28:53]?
SPEAKER 3: [Unintelligible - 00:29:02] be younger [unintelligible - 00:29:03] doctor say she’s either [unintelligible - 00:29:08] or 75 [unintelligible - 00:29:12] she really know [unintelligible - 00:29:22].
SPEAKER 4: [Unintelligible - 00:29:29]
SPEAKER 3: It was just a couple of [unintelligible - 00:29:31].
SPEAKER 4: Ultimately like [unintelligible - 00:29:35].
SPEAKER 3: No, ultimately it’s 75 [unintelligible - 00:29:44].
SPEAKER 4: But even though [unintelligible - 00:29:45].
SPEAKER 3: Yeah, [unintelligible - 00:29:45].
SPEAKER 4: Higher [unintelligible - 00:29:57].
SPEAKER 3: Considering that because she didn’t want
[00:30:00] [unintelligible - 00:30:01] because you got to be [unintelligible - 00:30:04].
SPEAKER 4: Okay.
SPEAKER 3: See [unintelligible - 00:30:05].
[AUDIO SILENCE]


SPEAKER 1: [Unintelligible - 00:00:03] her baby died you know [unintelligible - 00:00:10]. My grandfather, my great grandparents yeah [unintelligible - 00:00:21] again, am I clear?
SPEAKER 2: Uh-huh.
SPEAKER 1: And then you know and [unintelligible - 00:00:28]. But no matter where we are at and [unintelligible - 00:00:35] his parents had [unintelligible - 00:00:38] again. Okay, the [unintelligible - 00:00:40] down to [unintelligible - 00:00:52]. And it’s a family that I don’t know. Not that I lived through the [unintelligible - 00:01:00]. I’m putting [unintelligible - 00:01:02] it. Let’s [unintelligible - 00:01:08].
SPEAKER 2: Uh-huh.
SPEAKER 1: It’s like we I [unintelligible - 00:01:22] that let’s see. [Unintelligible - 00:01:26]. He was a small man [unintelligible - 00:01:30] good.
SPEAKER 2: Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 1: They were going to [unintelligible - 00:01:32] and they won’t [unintelligible - 00:01:34].
SPEAKER 2: Uh-huh.
SPEAKER 1: First in and I was -- I mean I was [unintelligible - 00:01:37] with this [unintelligible - 00:01:37]. I mean and I warned them.
SPEAKER 2: Oh yeah.
SPEAKER 1: And [unintelligible - 00:01:40] I said you know they really [unintelligible - 00:01:53].
SPEAKER 2: Okay and you [unintelligible - 00:01:56].
SPEAKER 1: The [unintelligible - 00:01:57] yeah I have the picture, yeah, and [unintelligible - 00:02:00] but I [unintelligible - 00:02:05] going. Yeah even though they did that we got that I’ll have the inscription and [unintelligible - 00:02:09]. You know, and it’s going to be a [unintelligible - 00:02:19] I don’t know that we going to [unintelligible - 00:02:20] no one feels like I do [unintelligible - 00:02:22] and newer developers. I think you even look if they can do it.
SPEAKER 2: Uh-huh.
SPEAKER 1: I think that [unintelligible - 00:02:30] one of these people.
SPEAKER 2: Yeah.
SPEAKER 1: So I was going to ask [unintelligible - 00:02:37] I put [unintelligible - 00:02:41] like that [unintelligible - 00:02:42] idea like that I don’t know right? And maybe it’ll be [unintelligible - 00:02:47] somewhere, yeah, they can understand that.
SPEAKER 2: Uh-huh.
SPEAKER 1: And they [unintelligible - 00:02:50] take that. They found the [unintelligible - 00:02:53] I think we [unintelligible - 00:02:59]
SPEAKER 2: Uh-huh.
SPEAKER 1: After [unintelligible - 00:03:06].
SPEAKER 2: You said you [unintelligible - 00:03:09].
SPEAKER 1: Oh yes he did, but he was a great school teacher. But those that [unintelligible - 00:03:14] now. I don’t know I [unintelligible - 00:03:18].
SPEAKER 2: You just stay alive?
SPEAKER 1: Yeah. But that [unintelligible - 00:03:25] and then 40 [unintelligible - 00:03:31].
SPEAKER 2: You have your [unintelligible - 00:03:39].
SPEAKER 1: And I [unintelligible - 00:03:41] I could not call her. And [unintelligible - 00:03:45] time for that. And [unintelligible - 00:03:46].
SPEAKER 2: Well that didn’t [unintelligible - 00:03:49].
SPEAKER 1: [Unintelligible - 00:03:50] not moving. Now that was still [unintelligible - 00:03:53] and [unintelligible - 00:03:53] maybe he was [unintelligible - 00:03:57] career. [Unintelligible - 00:04:01] they going to [unintelligible - 00:04:02]. One [unintelligible - 00:04:07], one clan so [unintelligible - 00:04:09].
SPEAKER 2: As in [unintelligible - 00:04:19]
SPEAKER 1: I don’t know. But he is [unintelligible - 00:04:22].
SPEAKER 2: Where is your new home?
SPEAKER 1: [Unintelligible - 00:04:24] yeah I remember they called him my picture was taken. At the time they put up [unintelligible - 00:04:29].
SPEAKER 2: That’s good.
SPEAKER 1: I mean that was [unintelligible - 00:04:35]. I mean I don’t [unintelligible - 00:04:36].
SPEAKER 2: Okay.
SPEAKER 1: See I [unintelligible - 00:04:37] line but some with some [unintelligible - 00:04:40].
SPEAKER 2: Okay.
SPEAKER 1: So I put [unintelligible - 00:04:43].
SPEAKER 2: Uh-huh.
SPEAKER 1: And [unintelligible - 00:04:46] you know, and went back to [unintelligible - 00:04:50] with us and but he is older than mine. [Unintelligible - 00:04:53] I say you can [unintelligible - 00:04:55] if he’s going to come by then even though that may [unintelligible - 00:05:00]
[00:05:00] and absolutely. How did you get to [unintelligible - 00:05:05]. You know, while, you know, they [unintelligible - 00:05:08] though. But it don’t [unintelligible - 00:05:16] I don’t know. It really [unintelligible - 00:05:19] like that. I [unintelligible - 00:05:22]. And you could put time with [unintelligible - 00:05:25]. So like you know what they going to do? You can live with them.
SPEAKER 2: Oh the [unintelligible - 00:05:28]?
SPEAKER 1: Yeah its [unintelligible - 00:05:29] independent. Oh right yeah I said [unintelligible - 00:05:33] to accomplish there. But [unintelligible - 00:05:37] Jenny, Jenny?
SPEAKER 2: Yeah.
SPEAKER 1: And then in one of the [unintelligible - 00:05:40].
SPEAKER 2: [Unintelligible - 00:05:41] here?
SPEAKER 1: One of the [unintelligible - 00:05:43] exactly.
SPEAKER 2: Oh [Lucas] yeah.
SPEAKER 1: Yeah and then you know at the time I [unintelligible - 00:05:49] I said [unintelligible - 00:05:51]. Yeah, I know what they did. [Unintelligible - 00:05:53] but I know what they [unintelligible - 00:05:54]. [Unintelligible - 00:05:56].
SPEAKER 2: [Unintelligible - 00:05:58].
SPEAKER 1: You want to get ahead of [unintelligible - 00:06:02].
SPEAKER 2: [Unintelligible - 00:06:05].
SPEAKER 1: And this is -- and they [unintelligible - 00:06:09]. Nothing could [unintelligible - 00:06:12] and it was most [unintelligible - 00:06:16] oh yeah, and this is a [unintelligible - 00:06:18] little late. [Unintelligible - 00:06:22] and [unintelligible - 00:06:30] first. When you got a [unintelligible - 00:06:36].
SPEAKER 2: And then [unintelligible - 00:06:38].
SPEAKER 1: [Unintelligible - 00:06:40] I knew we had a good [unintelligible - 00:06:43] down there after [unintelligible - 00:06:47]. And then so we [unintelligible - 00:06:49] that [unintelligible - 00:06:54]
SPEAKER 2: Oh yeah?
SPEAKER 1: Yeah. But Eric’s now there. After to put [unintelligible - 00:06:59] you got a picture of a [unintelligible - 00:07:01] and I [unintelligible - 00:07:03]. We had a little joke, you know, another [unintelligible - 00:07:09] with the little [unintelligible - 00:07:12] and [unintelligible - 00:07:13] depends like with [unintelligible - 00:07:17] would come early and [unintelligible - 00:07:18] through the [unintelligible - 00:07:19]. They took the [unintelligible - 00:07:21] put them in a [unintelligible - 00:07:22] and then [unintelligible - 00:07:23] jealous put [unintelligible - 00:07:24] all the time.
SPEAKER 2: Okay.
SPEAKER 1: And then we got [unintelligible - 00:07:34] and I [unintelligible - 00:07:38] because I don’t have this for the [unintelligible - 00:07:40]. I have to stop. [Unintelligible - 00:07:44]. I’ve had …
SPEAKER 2: [Unintelligible - 00:07:47] look in the mind?
SPEAKER 1: You can [unintelligible - 00:07:49] is the same [unintelligible - 00:07:51] then?
SPEAKER 2: No.
SPEAKER 1: And [unintelligible - 00:07:56] they completely look [unintelligible - 00:07:58] my company this is a [unintelligible - 00:08:00] back. But you [unintelligible - 00:08:02].
SPEAKER 2: Which one is [unintelligible - 00:08:04]?
SPEAKER 1: That one [unintelligible - 00:08:05].
SPEAKER 2: And we were [unintelligible - 00:08:05]?
SPEAKER 1: They were [unintelligible - 00:08:06].
[CROSSTALK]
SPEAKER 1: I know, and I got [unintelligible - 00:08:09] I didn’t.
SPEAKER 2: Well if you got everyday –
SPEAKER 1: Every day after school or after the [Malcom] show.
SPEAKER 2: [Unintelligible - 00:08:18]
SPEAKER 1: And I was [unintelligible - 00:08:20] from -- but I was [unintelligible - 00:08:21] going through any of it because yeah I mean I didn’t want to show off [unintelligible - 00:08:24] you know, because I [unintelligible - 00:08:27]. Yeah because I didn’t stay up and [unintelligible - 00:08:32]. And New York too.
SPEAKER 2: But then we can [unintelligible - 00:08:34].
SPEAKER 1: I’ve been [unintelligible - 00:08:35] when I was that young.
SPEAKER 2: Oh okay.
SPEAKER 1: Like one of [unintelligible - 00:08:37].
SPEAKER 2: Uh-huh and we were -- yeah we were –
SPEAKER 1: We were doing the [unintelligible - 00:08:43].
SPEAKER 2: Okay, let’s go through the record.
SPEAKER 1: Okay, [unintelligible - 00:08:46] and we’ll be back.
SPEAKER 2: Yeah.
SPEAKER 1: And then we can only [unintelligible - 00:08:48] I don’t know this is the – you better [unintelligible - 00:08:53] to put your message in?
SPEAKER 2: I can.
SPEAKER 1: [unintelligible - 00:08:58] and this is the [unintelligible - 00:08:58] in and [unintelligible - 00:09:00] later in the [unintelligible - 00:09:01] my dad my other [unintelligible - 00:09:03] but then after [unintelligible - 00:09:04] people I know, people like that [unintelligible - 00:09:08].
SPEAKER 2: Uh-huh.
SPEAKER 1: I thought, you know –
SPEAKER 2: You’re not expecting, you know –
SPEAKER 1: [Unintelligible - 00:09:13] and yeah but [unintelligible - 00:09:14].
SPEAKER 2: That wasn’t -- yeah I [unintelligible - 00:09:16] both of them but [unintelligible - 00:09:17] what’s going on, [unintelligible - 00:09:18] I think.
SPEAKER 1: Uh-huh.
SPEAKER 2: And then in [unintelligible - 00:09:22] got through and yeah and we [unintelligible - 00:09:27].
SPEAKER 1: [Unintelligible - 00:09:29].
[CROSSTALK]
SPEAKER 2: We could do it on [unintelligible - 00:09:32].
SPEAKER 1: Yeah.
SPEAKER 2: [Unintelligible - 00:09:33] look kind of [unintelligible - 00:09:34] yeah you [unintelligible - 00:09:36] and then [unintelligible - 00:09:37].
SPEAKER 1: No we should [unintelligible - 00:09:38] on the back we [unintelligible - 00:09:39] yeah.
SPEAKER 2: Can I write it here?
SPEAKER 1: Yeah.
SPEAKER 2: Because –
[CROSSTALK]
SPEAKER 1: [Unintelligible - 00:09:44] that I don’t even -- I don’t [unintelligible - 00:09:46] and [unintelligible - 00:09:47]. Leo and Jenny [unintelligible - 00:09:50] I don’t know. And I can [unintelligible - 00:09:56] that within your name I –
SPEAKER 2: How old do you think they are here?
SPEAKER 1: 13, four
[00:10:00] [unintelligible - 00:10:01] you know.
SPEAKER 2: Yeah.
SPEAKER 1: I don’t mind them [unintelligible - 00:10:06] you know [unintelligible - 00:10:08] a guy that [unintelligible - 00:10:13] but kind of guy who you know and this is before you were born [unintelligible - 00:10:16].
SPEAKER 2: Yeah at the [unintelligible - 00:10:18].
SPEAKER 1: Maybe they’ve got a baby, I don’t remember much, I don’t remember much, I don’t remember at all. I mean that [unintelligible - 00:10:25] I don’t remember. I remember you, you know I haven’t been I must have been two or three [unintelligible - 00:10:29] yeah, but I don’t remember Jim, there, I do not, my mind I don’t like [unintelligible - 00:10:35] you looked at with the right [unintelligible - 00:10:38] well I'm trying to figure out who that is, [unintelligible - 00:10:45] yeah [unintelligible - 00:10:49] it’s like the basic setting.
SPEAKER 2: [Unintelligible - 00:10:52] Kevin?
SPEAKER 1: Wasn’t that the plan?
SPEAKER 2: Half of those people [unintelligible - 00:10:55] to file them, and [unintelligible - 00:11:00] and move the other lot to [unintelligible - 00:11:00] so –
SPEAKER 1: When was it [unintelligible - 00:11:02] handling that? [Unintelligible - 00:11:03] my mother’s house in years and now [unintelligible - 00:11:06].
SPEAKER 2: I could [unintelligible - 00:11:07].
SPEAKER 1: Yeah [unintelligible - 00:11:13] 3838 [unintelligible - 00:11:16].
SPEAKER 2: That’s the one, that’s the one.
SPEAKER 1: [Unintelligible - 00:11:22] Yeah I know she is that, this is that and then I [unintelligible - 00:11:42] and then say [unintelligible - 00:11:43] and this is his dad that stood up for him, and what was the name? [Unintelligible - 00:11:47]
SPEAKER 1: Yeah the one that we [unintelligible - 00:11:49] but we did [unintelligible - 00:11:50].
SPEAKER 2: That’s right, [unintelligible - 00:11:57] no, no, no [unintelligible - 00:12:00].
SPEAKER 1: Had a lying problem, yeah, remember seven [unintelligible - 00:12:04] got it, yeah.
SPEAKER 2: And this isn’t [unintelligible - 00:12:07] right.
SPEAKER 1: Yeah, this is, this is what happened at the [unintelligible - 00:12:09] remember?
SPEAKER 2: Uh-huh, and they were coming out yeah. I remember it back there but [unintelligible - 00:12:14] happen.
SPEAKER 1: Okay [unintelligible - 00:12:18] and I had that [unintelligible - 00:12:20]
SPEAKER 2: Yeah.
SPEAKER 1: That was sold.
SPEAKER 2: Yeah, and I [unintelligible - 00:12:25] that, those [unintelligible - 00:12:29].
SPEAKER 1: They were just so [unintelligible - 00:12:35]. Yeah. [Unintelligible - 00:12:40] right now. Is that on the [unintelligible - 00:12:42] and then I [unintelligible - 00:12:45] looking after the pool? [Unintelligible - 00:12:49] and this is the same, no this is [unintelligible - 00:12:55] this is the one at the – yeah, it’s the one.
SPEAKER 2: [Unintelligible - 00:13:00] I thought that would be the [unintelligible - 00:13:04] so this is the [unintelligible - 00:13:06] I think it’s got a lot more [unintelligible - 00:13:10].
SPEAKER 1: I kind of think that [unintelligible - 00:13:10] and I can’t make it out now where is that token [unintelligible - 00:13:15] I thought maybe kind of [unintelligible - 00:13:17].
SPEAKER 2: They did have [unintelligible - 00:13:19] system.
SPEAKER 1: [Unintelligible - 00:13:21] and now they went to [unintelligible - 00:13:24].
SPEAKER 2: [Unintelligible - 00:13:27] same thing [unintelligible - 00:13:31] I thought maybe somebody’s in [unintelligible - 00:13:32] here.
SPEAKER 1: Remember the [unintelligible - 00:13:36] I did that here. There was little [unintelligible - 00:13:42].
SPEAKER 2: Yeah, [unintelligible - 00:13:47].
SPEAKER 1: Even at that [unintelligible - 00:13:53].
SPEAKER 2: Yeah I think so that’s [unintelligible - 00:13:55] there you go like [unintelligible - 00:13:58] and that is not the [unintelligible - 00:14:03] [unintelligible - 00:14:03] he said so many [unintelligible - 00:14:06] next week [unintelligible - 00:14:10] and [unintelligible - 00:14:13] among the others down there so I can [unintelligible - 00:14:14], yeah. [Unintelligible - 00:14:19].
SPEAKER 1: They headed back and they [unintelligible - 00:14:19] basically seven.
SPEAKER 2: Under the [unintelligible - 00:14:23].
SPEAKER 1: Ten months [unintelligible - 00:14:24], yeah. Where are you from in California?
SPEAKER 2: Yeah.
SPEAKER 1: They used to bring in, they used to be [unintelligible - 00:14:33] and then it makes it, they actually been [unintelligible - 00:14:37] everybody thinks they're living, and [unintelligible - 00:14:40] they’re not so good, and there's no doubt about it. [Unintelligible - 00:14:44].
SPEAKER 2: What was [unintelligible - 00:14:45] that night?
SPEAKER1: [Unintelligible - 00:14:46] not John, George and Kostas.
SPEAKER 2: George and Beth?
SPEAKER 1: Yeah. [Unintelligible - 00:15:00]
[00:15:00] just a little bit, a little bit [unintelligible - 00:15:03]. Look at him, he said, he has some [unintelligible - 00:15:06] I haven’t [unintelligible - 00:15:08] but they don’t [unintelligible - 00:15:10] at that time. Now they simply, they simply know that [unintelligible - 00:15:14] that change is good for them, she is [unintelligible - 00:15:17] not at the time, that’s just that. What was it, [unintelligible - 00:15:24] that, [unintelligible - 00:15:25] no it’s that, that was the [unintelligible - 00:15:29] then down [unintelligible - 00:15:32] I did, having some [unintelligible - 00:15:39] honestly if it wasn’t for [unintelligible - 00:15:42] I think I, I meant to, I meant to. Have you ever [unintelligible - 00:15:47] yeah, yeah, they left them [unintelligible - 00:15:50] this time.
SPEAKER 2: She did [unintelligible - 00:15:52].
SPEAKER 1: No, no, she's [unintelligible - 00:15:54].
SPEAKER 2: Okay.
SPEAKER 1: And the [unintelligible - 00:15:58] her grandmother, no great grandmother, I don't know, I don't know, but yeah, he appreciates you very much, and she was saying, she is in America with her husband, and I don't know, but [unintelligible - 00:16:15] something and but by getting [unintelligible - 00:16:21] that, yeah great [unintelligible - 00:16:26] my great grandfather [unintelligible - 00:16:29] Uncle Nick and Uncle Tom and [unintelligible - 00:16:33] you know there was mothers and sisters.
SPEAKER 2: [Unintelligible - 00:16:40]
SPEAKER 1: Yeah, to answer that, too [unintelligible - 00:16:43] I think.
SPEAKER 2: Is it [unintelligible - 00:16:50]?
SPEAKER 1: Yes [unintelligible - 00:16:52] so yeah you know.
SPEAKER 2: What was his first name?
SPEAKER 1: Isaac. Have you [unintelligible - 00:17:06] because you want I was [unintelligible - 00:17:11] and this said [unintelligible - 00:17:15].
SPEAKER 2: Is it from Kate?
SPEAKER 1: I think so, [unintelligible - 00:17:24] because it’s just gone [unintelligible - 00:17:25].
SPEAKER 2: Cool.
SPEAKER 1: Since you [unintelligible - 00:17:29] and most of them go through me. So it’s not a council design, [unintelligible - 00:17:33] so someone sent an email, so [unintelligible - 00:17:37] my mother [unintelligible - 00:17:38].
SPEAKER 2: You finally read it?
SPEAKER 1: Oh I'm no [unintelligible - 00:17:42] tell my mother that she [unintelligible - 00:17:44].
SPEAKER 2: Is it out in [unintelligible - 00:17:48]?
SPEAKER 1: Out in [unintelligible - 00:17:49] on my mother’s side. I haven’t seen a [unintelligible - 00:17:53] she's sick, she is definitely sick. And my mother [unintelligible - 00:17:57] here this is your dad [unintelligible - 00:18:04] and my dad and I, my [Unintelligible - 00:18:07] he sent a little picture of him [unintelligible - 00:18:09] my dad and I [unintelligible - 00:18:10] he had left me, that’s it on the bad side of town. So she wanted to do so very [unintelligible - 00:18:17] my dad bought her clothes and he bought my mother a dress, he bought her [unintelligible - 00:18:21] did everyone ever find out because he was about to [unintelligible - 00:18:27] my mother thinks that [unintelligible - 00:18:30] and he's the brighter [unintelligible - 00:18:34] I understand that [unintelligible - 00:18:36] Leo hadn’t been born yet and she stayed 10 years and by the time [unintelligible - 00:18:46] and this is the story that happened [unintelligible - 00:18:48] and she kept saying that it was a girl. And [unintelligible - 00:18:52] a girl that I don’t [unintelligible - 00:18:54] at all, and at least I'm not [unintelligible - 00:18:56] the whole Doc Adams [unintelligible - 00:18:59] he had a simple sort of no [unintelligible - 00:19:01] but –
SPEAKER 2: No Donna, I am [unintelligible - 00:19:05].
SPEAKER 1: And you [unintelligible - 00:19:09] but the birth cannot [unintelligible - 00:19:13] the girl has to go to everything [unintelligible - 00:19:15] I have to take care of. So then you can place the [unintelligible - 00:19:19] maybe we can see the daughter, too. And maybe not [unintelligible - 00:19:23] and I don’t have the [unintelligible - 00:19:29] that are responsive to [unintelligible - 00:19:30] they either have been [unintelligible - 00:19:33] to build in closets [unintelligible - 00:19:34] they did but with the little [unintelligible - 00:19:38] and they had it come [unintelligible - 00:19:41] right and [unintelligible - 00:19:45] wait a minute when I got out of hospital, I didn’t [unintelligible - 00:19:51] I said [unintelligible - 00:19:54] I'm not [unintelligible - 00:19:56] I'm done after seven months. And he was like, cool.
[00:20:00] I mean, I’ve seen, [unintelligible - 00:20:00].
SPEAKER 2: How old do you think they were?
SPEAKER 1: [Unintelligible - 00:20:03] and I bag her like this I take home. And my mother says, oh my God, I got to die, like really the, the charm, and a law magnet. She’s a charm [unintelligible - 00:20:16]. I was just sick of her, I managed to the end of story and I couldn’t stop, I mean –
SPEAKER 2: Yeah you do?
SPEAKER 1: I do.
SPEAKER 2: What were you scared of?
SPEAKER 1: It’s just the meetings, I like the meetings I kicked at something and she pinched me so hard I snapped. I think it was the silver bowl or something, I guess I broke her arm [unintelligible - 00:20:34]. Oh, so don’t be telling me that [unintelligible - 00:20:41]. You are not last. My uncle hates my mother and likes to talk to me about [unintelligible - 00:20:45]. I like to ask about community. I see much time I am to me and that’s how and that’s how I think it’s trying to be. Anything he wanted to Uncle [unintelligible - 00:20:55]. And one day it’s the opposite. I mean, don’t you think [unintelligible - 00:21:00] same thing to go now. Okay if there’s [unintelligible - 00:21:04] I got training I got [unintelligible - 00:21:08]. Don’t come to me like [unintelligible - 00:21:11]. You want to those [unintelligible - 00:21:13]?
SPEAKER 2: Fine, what is it?
SPEAKER 1: [Unintelligible - 00:21:15] on your way to [unintelligible - 00:21:16] stop forward 16 years.
SPEAKER 2: And do you have any children?
SPEAKER 1: No, [unintelligible - 00:21:20] you know I’ve seen them and [unintelligible - 00:21:23], lay that into the bed where we got engaged. You know when I grew up in [unintelligible - 00:21:28] when I was a little girl. [Unintelligible - 00:21:29]. To letting me grow. You know I can understand [unintelligible - 00:21:36] this is [unintelligible - 00:21:37]. I was trying to find my way. I used to [unintelligible - 00:21:40], but [unintelligible - 00:21:42]. And well just the daughter is there at their house. No, Mary is still not send the daughter back, I mean, [unintelligible - 00:21:49] and I’ll come like trying to [unintelligible - 00:21:51] yeah.
SPEAKER 2: Okay, you have all that, let’s just see the rest of the [unintelligible - 00:21:54].
SPEAKER 1: Now that [unintelligible - 00:21:56], if I may add. I don’t know what part of the song I know. Either one of the thousands because I don’t know. And that’s [unintelligible - 00:22:03] stuff maybe it’s the stabilization, I think. Look at [unintelligible - 00:22:06]. It sounded bad [unintelligible - 00:22:06] picture.
SPEAKER 2: Well yeah, give me some of the [unintelligible - 00:22:11].
SPEAKER 1: I don’t know any but it was good.
SPEAKER 2: Well, it’s mostly [Unintelligible - 00:22:15] you clear the ice you got a fan right here.
SPEAKER 1: All right, if you like [unintelligible - 00:22:19]. You’d like to dance. [Unintelligible - 00:22:24]
SPEAKER 2: You did this already.
SPEAKER 1: Yeah, I can’t remember it now.
SPEAKER 2: Did you plan to leave the country?
SPEAKER 1: Yeah, well when the [unintelligible - 00:22:32].
SPEAKER 2: Ask me anything?
SPEAKER 1: No I don’t remember at all.
SPEAKER 2: Do you remember [unintelligible - 00:22:36].
SPEAKER 1: I don’t know why I think it might be used on that.
SPEAKER 2: Well I think it’s –
SPEAKER 1: [Unintelligible - 00:22:41] and just you might notice it’s $5 a time. Not that I don’t get to [unintelligible - 00:22:46]. I just [unintelligible - 00:22:48]. And I voluntarily [unintelligible - 00:22:51] I grew to see a condo. And this is where – this is just a guy’s father.
SPEAKER 2: And who is the guy?
SPEAKER 1: This is a mix of the [unintelligible - 00:23:07]. In Minneapolis, he was very young [unintelligible - 00:23:11].
SPEAKER 2: Okay, what was it like?
SPEAKER 1: Yeah, you know all that [unintelligible - 00:23:20], you can’t be all intense with it. We moved to California and this is the uncle and his father, and this is his uncle, and this is Aunt Neon and this is Olive. I didn’t think he had a [unintelligible - 00:23:34]. And this who’s [unintelligible - 00:23:36] swim is Aunt [Pondo], yeah, and I got to find my auntie, you know. Me and uncle [unintelligible - 00:23:45] we used to do, me and Uncle Mitch, we used to do [unintelligible - 00:23:48]. Yeah I could [unintelligible - 00:23:51]. It wouldn’t be a step on, no [unintelligible - 00:23:53]. When my mother and, when my uncle sees [unintelligible - 00:23:57] just my mother went alone and then she just she didn’t take the [unintelligible - 00:24:03] but she’s too strong. You know, we used to go around there some place. You know.
SPEAKER 2: At the [unintelligible - 00:24:10].
SPEAKER 1: Yeah, and slow down and bigger than distance. And you just can't [unintelligible - 00:24:15], okay but then it’s too close to come out. And I’m thinking about my son’s [unintelligible - 00:24:18], now he gets it, you know, like healthy opportunity again, you know. And this is not [unintelligible - 00:24:25] weather. It’s kind of like [unintelligible - 00:24:26]. So [unintelligible - 00:24:27]. And –
SPEAKER 2: What about the landing [unintelligible - 00:24:30].
SPEAKER 1: [Unintelligible - 00:24:35]. This conflict and coming after us, I mean [unintelligible - 00:24:42]. My kids are sick, [unintelligible - 00:24:53] that’s why I did it. Yeah, I can’t say I’m fine, but you could have told me. There isn’t much money and at least they make you do something else.
[00:25:00] and then rent would drag us down. We used to make it to the [unintelligible - 00:25:04]. Your building ain’t so big. W used to make it there. All the [unintelligible - 00:25:16], that’s our stay – his mother was the type of person just selling to bands, to my band. That I used to see yeah who’s out in California me and my sister. They used to learn the whole thing. They used to learn quite you know, [unintelligible - 00:25:34]. Yeah, but behind that song in fact I had a little band and that I don’t know, a flower home where you are down [unintelligible - 00:25:42]. And so we loved it and we [unintelligible - 00:25:47]. And we [unintelligible - 00:25:49] to find on a [unintelligible - 00:25:49]. To find anything and I had Anna.
SPEAKER 2: What year did you [unintelligible - 00:25:58].
SPEAKER 1: I don’t know, [unintelligible - 00:26:00]. And I lived with [unintelligible - 00:26:03] about four years old and you know what [unintelligible - 00:26:05]. I used to nail the [unintelligible - 00:26:06] but they had [Jambo Joes] and my mother helped me. And there is just a [unintelligible - 00:26:11] at home. But my mother had the lower hand and [unintelligible - 00:26:17]. And we had a [unintelligible - 00:26:21] and that line to the [unintelligible - 00:26:22]. Music lady? [Unintelligible - 00:26:25] Johnson and they figured out it was the same thing. So the young followed Brother Luke, and [unintelligible - 00:26:31]. And we took this day to [unintelligible - 00:26:34]. And try this with my mother and my grandmother [unintelligible - 00:26:39].
SPEAKER 2: Oh good, good, that’s good.
SPEAKER 1: That’s the whole song I’m putting the beat, I’m putting it in. I really felt [unintelligible - 00:26:43] playing this [unintelligible - 00:26:44]. Too much song [unintelligible - 00:26:54] I’m not that strong or I would have sang the song [unintelligible - 00:26:52]. Now naturally, my father, he was a sheriff. I can’t understand who else was there. I know, if I met [unintelligible - 00:27:01]. You know, and the best artist [unintelligible - 00:27:07], if I knew they are singing there at this song [unintelligible - 00:27:16] it’s optional. Where they all refused to go out with me and they had a band that [unintelligible - 00:27:20]. Here is some relatives of my mothers. It’s – she’s related, I mean not just when she was a baby, you know.
SPEAKER 2: Okay.
SPEAKER 1: This [unintelligible - 00:27:33] and this is, this is Chris’ daughter. Not the Chris that I was [unintelligible - 00:27:41], not the one. And this is his wife. And this is Mr. [unintelligible - 00:27:48], and what’s this like. And they were sisters. [Unintelligible - 00:27:54], you know, until the young we are and they said to the young. Maybe I can’t remember giving, my mother, meeting my mother’s relatives and friends. They helped. Make it sexier and nicer, make it better, and I’m trying to show you my mother lived with us, you know, even in prison [unintelligible - 00:28:12]. And here is her picture at my wedding, look at the engagement and the wedding pictures and take that in the area. But this the [unintelligible - 00:28:23]. I [unintelligible - 00:28:24]. You look to the one and then you know look [unintelligible - 00:28:27].
SPEAKER 2: Yeah, sure.
SPEAKER 1: Right here. And that was foundation that normal [unintelligible - 00:28:34] yeah, I think they did, to God. [Unintelligible - 00:28:38] yeah.
SPEAKER 2: You thought that was.
SPEAKER 1: I didn’t [unintelligible - 00:28:43] I didn’t know this [unintelligible - 00:28:44], you know, I did [unintelligible - 00:28:45]. You got, you got to know what I was thinking.
SPEAKER 2: But who was more inhibiting?
SPEAKER 1: Oh I think Sam, his father was a mind reader [unintelligible - 00:28:54]. And when my father died here in [unintelligible - 00:29:01], he was trying to [unintelligible - 00:29:07]. I didn’t really like it. [Unintelligible - 00:29:13] You know I’d rather get by, and I just turn my thoughts to the – [00:29:29]